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UnallocatedClusters
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Hello,

I have a civil divorce case in which the judge has ordered the ex-husband not to contact, nor travel on specific streets surrounding my client's home.

The judge has asked for suggestions as to how to track and enforce her order. The ex-husband will be made to bear the expenses related to the tracking.

One idea I came up with is to have the ex-husband install Spyzie on his phone (https://www.spyzie.com/track-gps-location.html) which would allow the judge to track and report on the physical locations the ex-husband has been (or at least has been with his Android phone).

I have never used Spyzie so perhaps one of our colleagues here at the forum has some experience with this tool or another suggestion?

A google search has identified several GPS tracking devices such as this one http//gpsandtrack.com/car_tracker/

Or this one http//www.spytecinc.com/xt-2150-hard-wire-real-time-gps-vehicle-tracker.html

Any thoughts or suggestions?

 
Posted : 22/09/2017 8:57 pm
(@athulin)
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One idea I came up with is to have the ex-husband install Spyzie on his phone (https://www.spyzie.com/track-gps-location.html) which would allow the judge to track and report on the physical locations the ex-husband has been (or at least has been with his Android phone).

Now put on your black hat, put yourself in the husband's position, and find ways that he could get around that. (The parenthesis at the end is a start …)

I have never used Spyzie …

Suggestion Don't propose anything you haven't tried out yurself. Basically, you have to be certain that what you suggest does the job, and cannot easily be subverted, particularly not by 'an underdog', who may not cooperate fully.

How often will the logs be examined? Continuously? Every 12 hours? is there some kind of response time involved if the injunction is ignored?

Or would it, for example, be enough to deny Spyzie access to Android location services to make the whole thing useless … at least for enough time for whatever injury the injunction is intended to minimize? Or is it only a deterrent? (Might be possible to write an app that turns off location service rights for all apps under the guise of 'security concerns'. That might be a plausible reason for monitoring failure … just a wild idea.)

If any device is locally accepted for electronic curfew (such as ankle monitor), that would probably be the best, as there already would be local expertise on the equipment, as well as an infrastructure that could be re-used for monitoring, and possibly even response if the alarm goes off … but that may be considered overkill in a civil case.

 
Posted : 23/09/2017 6:42 am
RolfGutmann
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@athulin - wise words, excellent post!

 
Posted : 23/09/2017 8:05 am
jaclaz
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As mentioned here
https://www.forensicfocus.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=15070
maybe you want a kids tracking software, or - as unallocatedclusters suggested - airwatch (but this latter may be offering "too much").

jaclaz

 
Posted : 23/09/2017 10:09 am
(@athulin)
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(Might be possible to write an app that turns off location service rights for all apps under the guise of 'security concerns'. That might be a plausible reason for monitoring failure … just a wild idea.)

Also Just noted the app 'Fake GPS location' on Google, as well as some other apps in the same style.

As far as I can determine without actually testing, they require additional rights, but it suggests that it may be possible to subvert location services by local apps, under suitable circumstances.

 
Posted : 03/11/2017 6:31 pm
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