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5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Discussion of forensic issues related to all types of mobile phones and underlying technologies (GSM, GPRS, UMTS/3G, HSDPA, LTE, Bluetooth etc.)
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jaclaz
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Re: 5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Post Posted: Apr 19, 19 08:01

- TinyBrain
In general the cryptographic layer - as the layer of authentication and authorization related to security - only can be fully understood if you first understand the digital process. Related to 5G this guy warned about failing in having the full picture in theory would also fail in testing after if we dont fully and hardened understand the 5G positioning options as a whole.

We have to master the crypto of 5G positioning - so I first have to understand the 5G positioning.


I.e., in practice, he told you that you need to become a MBB expert (whatever that is).

I sense a sort of logical issue here:
- TinyBrain

I am a cryptographer and cannot become an MBB expert to do my job.


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TinyBrain
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Re: 5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Post Posted: Apr 20, 19 01:17

Is somebody running 5G tests in general related to positioning?  
 
  

passcodeunlock
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Re: 5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Post Posted: Apr 20, 19 06:42

Huawei is, contact their official channel.
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trewmte
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Re: 5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Post Posted: Apr 20, 19 09:02

If you do follow up on the comments below

- passcodeunlock
Huawei is, contact their official channel.


then you may want to ask Huawei what their current position is given Huawei's response to the call for input concerning Fixed Wireless Spectrum Strategy September 2016 at Question 6: a) How do you expect future mobile backhaul network architecture to evolve as part of the 5G ecosystem?

Huawei stated "...the foreseen increase of the front-haul capacity still presents technical and economic challenges such that we don’t foresee wireless front-haul to be deployed save for few limited applications."
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TinyBrain
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Re: 5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Post Posted: Apr 21, 19 06:27

Thank you trewmte for your proposal to ask Huawei.

But I got the new NRPPa to study first. Are you familiar with this protocol?  
 
  

trewmte
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Re: 5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Post Posted: Apr 21, 19 09:58

- TinyBrain
Thank you trewmte for your proposal to ask Huawei.

But I got the new NRPPa (NR Positioning Protocol A (NRPPa))to study first. Are you familiar with this protocol?


I know of it and have a copy of it; I doubt there are too many out there entirely familiar in an operational 5G-NR context in a pure 5G network. Many of the protocols though are already rehearsed in a similar fashion for LTE Positioning Protocol A (LPPa).
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trewmte
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Re: 5G Sub-Meter Positioning

Post Posted: Apr 22, 19 08:31

5G-NR False Base Stations (Part 1)

trewmte.blogspot.com/2...art-1.html
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