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EnCE Training

Computer forensics training and education issues. If you are looking for topic suggestions for your project, thesis or dissertation please post here rather than the general discussion forum.
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bh47100
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EnCE Training

Post Posted: Aug 19, 04 18:56

Hello,

Just wondering if there is anyone holding a EnCE (Encase Certified Examiner) certification. I am looking into becoming certified and would like to know if it is a worthwhile certification and also if the Version 4 software is worth the $2700.

Thanks in advance,

Brandon  
 
  

Andy
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Re: EnCE Training

Post Posted: Aug 19, 04 20:45

Hey there, looks like we are the first to post. I hope your forum takes off Smile

EnCase - worth the money? Depends on what you need it for. If running a forensic computing business or law enforcement agency the yes - its probably the best tool. There are others such as FTK and Smart (Linux) but EnCase seems to have more support. It does the job quick and has a simple easy to understand interface (but perhaps that just because I'm very used to it).

If I was freelancing and could not afford the $2.5K licence - I'd probably use Linux.

EnCE - is it a good qualification? I'd say yes, but not essential.  
 
  

jamie
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Re: EnCE Training

Post Posted: Aug 20, 04 00:49

Welcome both to Forensic Focus (and thanks for kickstarting the forums!)

I think I share Andy's take on EnCase and the related certification. Just one question though Andy, if you don't mind me asking, do you already have the EnCE? If not, is it on the cards?

Cheers,

Jamie
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bh47100
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Re: EnCE Training

Post Posted: Aug 20, 04 18:01

Thanks for the insight. (both of you) I am graduating next month with a CIS degree and want to specialize in a computer forensic area. My Masters classes start soon for my MISM and I will focus on security related topics. I am spending my time now determining which certifications, publications, web sites, training facilities, software and other venues have rewarding information and respected products and services. This field is a little behind the scenes but growing rapidly in the private sector. I would really like to get involved. I am familiar with Hex Editors, basic file reconstruction and software data recovery. I asked about EnCE just because the articles I have read regarding certifications in this arena have all mentioned EnCE and Certified Computer Examiner (CCE). I am also looking at training facilities and browsing for job opportunities in the field, but experience seems to be the key. Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated, and also info on how you guys got started or what field you are in may be helpful as well. Thanks again. Hope the site does well.

Brandon  
 
  

jamie
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Re: EnCE Training

Post Posted: Aug 20, 04 18:58

Yep, Guidance market well (that's not a criticism!)

Personally I got into this field as I had a background in network administration, a huge interest in computer forensics and a friend who knew someone working in the field with a vacancy in their team. The first two are easy, the last almost impossible to arrange...I just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Perhaps the lesson is that personal contacts (e.g. through forums, conferences, discussion lists, etc.) can make a difference.

You're right to say that experience is the key but it's often a chicken and egg situation. In the meantime, until you get your foot on the ladder, I recommend reading as much as possible and experimenting with whatever software/hardware you can. Training appears to be improving as far as the range of courses is concerned but it's slow progress. One further option may be to contact local law enforcement to see if you can assist on a voluntary basis, e.g.

www.oregonlive.com/new...234670.xml

No idea how widespread such schemes are but worth a shot if LE work appeals, I guess. Anyway, best of luck and good to have you around the forums.

Cheers,

Jamie
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Andy
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Re: EnCE Training

Post Posted: Aug 21, 04 09:18

I agree that the very best way to learn this business is practice - trial & error. For example if I want to investigate how a website had been hacked, I made my own site and learnt how to manage one (I had no experience web authoring/management prior to this).

Most people who venture into the field already have a good idea how computers work, some better at the technical side than others, but the most valuable skill is investigation and knowing how the legal system works, and that’s something often comes with experience. Which brings us onto the chicken & egg situation.

Andy  

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jamie
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Re: EnCE Training

Post Posted: Aug 21, 04 11:55

Thanks Andy, some valuable food for thought there. Appreciate the time taken to reply.

Cheers,

Jamie
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