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HELP/IDEAS?! university project

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thegavster
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HELP/IDEAS?! university project

Post Posted: Dec 11, 08 06:26

Hi guys, this is my first post to the forum and im also new to the forensics world. i am in my second year degree of digital forensics at university and it is going well and I have just designed and investigated a simple experiment that was to identify where Nero Burning Rom stores cache on the HDD when a burn process is started. Iv been asked to design an experiment project of my own.

I want the project to be fairly simple (inkeeping with my skills; basic ftk, helix and encase). I have a personal interest in wireless technologies, in particular wireless routers and penitration testing. I was hoping to do some kind of investigation into any data that can be recovered (eg web browsing) from a router device, when other sources of data recovery have failed? Im not particllary sure of what to do, as i am new to the area.

Anyways any simple experiment that can be suggested wireless, pen testing or otherwise will be greatly appreciated.  
 
  

hinchy
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Re: HELP/IDEAS?! university project

Post Posted: Dec 11, 08 13:46

thegavster,

A simple, but interesting project might be to investigate the possibility of using grid computing to increase the affect of brute force attacks against wireless encryption standards (WEP, WPA2 etc).

A project like that would depend on a number of factors though:
- What kind of programming skills have you got?
- Is your course purely forensics based?
- Is there someone in your faculty that would be willing to supervise? etc, etc


Hope that helps,
Hinchy
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Sleepy
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Re: HELP/IDEAS?! university project

Post Posted: Dec 12, 08 01:34

Brute force attacks have recently gone "off the charts" with the advent of cuda and gpu-distributed attacks. If you're going to look into brute forcing at all I'd like to see some more expansions of the cuda gpu cracker, there are a few already but if you go in the game right away you could probably still pioneer something.

Some colleagues and I used 4 gpus to crack a 8 digit (upper,lower,number,special symbol) ltfm hash in 1 day 9 hours! amazing!  
 
  

debaser_
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Re: HELP/IDEAS?! university project

Post Posted: Dec 12, 08 02:04

- Sleepy
Brute force attacks have recently gone "off the charts" with the advent of cuda and gpu-distributed attacks. If you're going to look into brute forcing at all I'd like to see some more expansions of the cuda gpu cracker, there are a few already but if you go in the game right away you could probably still pioneer something.

Some colleagues and I used 4 gpus to crack a 8 digit (upper,lower,number,special symbol) ltfm hash in 1 day 9 hours! amazing!


What kind of rig? Was it one of the 4 gpu tesla boxes? Shocked  
 
  

Sleepy
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Re: HELP/IDEAS?! university project

Post Posted: Dec 12, 08 03:01

Nope, it was 4 ordinary laptops (the software allows for distributed attack) with various cards in them (the software requires 8000 series + nvidia gpu's).
This was really just a quick test by myself and 4 other students, we plan do do some more involved testing soon. I should also note that we have a single cpu running the same brute force software against the same hash and as of yesterday when I left the lab it estimated 106 years + before it achieves the same result. Shocked

If any of you are actually interested in our amateurish testing, I'll see if the rest of the team would mind if I posted our notes here.  
 
  

jeffcaplan
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Re: HELP/IDEAS?! university project

Post Posted: Dec 12, 08 05:04

- hinchy
thegavster,

A simple, but interesting project might be to investigate the possibility of using grid computing to increase the affect of brute force attacks against wireless encryption standards (WEP, WPA2 etc).

A project like that would depend on a number of factors though:
- What kind of programming skills have you got?
- Is your course purely forensics based?
- Is there someone in your faculty that would be willing to supervise? etc, etc


Hope that helps,
Hinchy


Grid computing leveraged to increase the effectiveness of brute force attacks against WPA2...hmm...you mean something like this?

Considering that's already been done and commercialized, might I suggest something a little more original?

- thegavster
I was hoping to do some kind of investigation into any data that can be recovered (eg web browsing) from a router device


That's not a bad idea, actually. Maybe investigate some of the various models of commercial routers out there to see what kind of data gets cached in memory while forwarding requests. I imagine there should be quite a bit...getting access to it would be the fun part.


Jeff
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azrael
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Re: HELP/IDEAS?! university project

Post Posted: Dec 12, 08 13:47

- Sleepy
If any of you are actually interested in our amateurish testing, I'll see if the rest of the team would mind if I posted our notes here.


Very, please do !
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