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Cell data analysis, problem

Discussion of forensic issues related to all types of mobile phones and underlying technologies (GSM, GPRS, UMTS/3G, HSDPA, LTE, Bluetooth etc.)
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MobilePhoneForensic
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Re: Cell data analysis, problem

Post Posted: Apr 30, 09 13:54

An example of a spoof messaging site www.spoofsms.co.uk/  
 
  

trewmte
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Re: Cell data analysis, problem

Post Posted: Apr 30, 09 16:20

- MobilePhoneForensic
The messages could have been sent from a spoof messaging website.


These are questions but they may come across as riddles:

Why pay 50p to spoof someone's mobile number and then Orange enter a call record of that event when the text is not originated via the Orange network nor a roaming partner?

Moreover, wouldn't that amount to every call record in evidence involving text leading to the prosecution being unable to:

(a) identify sender?
(b) origin of the parties?
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MobilePhoneForensic
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Re: Cell data analysis, problem

Post Posted: Apr 30, 09 17:13

Fair point Trewmte - I guess I was just typing without thinking and without understanding the scenario properly.

1. Could it be a missed call sms from the network (i.e one person calls another and hangs up before it goes to voicemail etc - some networks then send an SMS saying this person called but didn't leave a message and often shows the callers number).


Wouldn't OB have to activate this service on his/her account, and wouldn't the missed call message be received from OB's account and not OA's account?

Just a question?  
 
  

trewmte
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Re: Cell data analysis, problem

Post Posted: Apr 30, 09 18:13

MobilePhoneForensic I hope you don't think my comments to you were intended as criticism because I thought what you stated was useful and that you may made a discovery about something I was unaware.

- MobilePhoneForensic
Wouldn't OB have to activate this service on his/her account, and wouldn't the missed call message be received from OB's account and not OA's account?

Just a question?


I assume you are no longer dealing with text messages, per se, but network announcement text messages. I also assume you are not suggesting that the spoof text is spoofed to look like a missed call message.

For missed calls, some networks do send a text to indicate a missed call and displaying the calling party's number. This is not a special activated service as far as I am aware. The network sends this complementary message to get the called party to call back and spend money on a call. That is just good sales marketing I assume.

I can't say what happens in every GSM operator's network but I do not recall seeing the called party's (or calling party for that matter) call records detailing a network announcement of a missed call in the records, although if they did that might be useful evidence representing

(i) an attempt by the calling party to contact the called party
(ii) knowledge by the called party of an attempt to be contacted by the calling party

Did I understand your comments or have I missed the point?
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